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My 4 year old daughter and I have this ongoing power struggle over her messy room. You see, my husband and I have designated every Friday night as "Clean Up Night," where we try to tackle a majority of the chores so we can all enjoy our weekend.
We're big on the kids pitching in, so their job is to pick up all their toys and tidy their rooms, among other little tasks.
And every Friday the same fight with my daughter ensues -- "Mommy, I'm too tired." "Mommy, I can't pick up my stuffed animals because my hands hurt." "Mommy I'll do it later, I promise!"
Another example of how my daughter is just so different from me. She loves princesses, I don't. She prefers clothes that are pink and frilly; I'm the queen of neutral and understated. She wants to have a tea party, I'd much rather go out and throw a baseball around.
I'm a clean freak, she's the messiest most disorganized human on the face of the earth.
I'm not joking. Getting that girl to put a stuffed animal back into a basket is like asking her to give up the last cupcake on earth. She also likes to sleep with a rotating assortment of "stuff," which means the flashlight, jewelry box, stuffed kitty, ice pack, rock, and green plastic leaf from an old Dora toy will eventually find their way under the bed, all waiting to greet me on Friday night.
I know what you're going to say ... that I'm the parent and she's the slave child and I should just make her do it. I agree! So every Friday when she refuses to help clean her room, she gets a big consequence. Last weekend it was no treats the entire weekend.
The weekend before that she couldn't play with her neighbor friend. And the week before that it was something else that I was sure would have done the trick. I'll keep working through my list of punishments, but apparently, this is something she feels very strongly about. Seems no amount of sugar withdrawal, time-outs, or fun is going to buy her surrender.
I'm jealous of Nataly Kogan of Work It Mom, whose own 4 year old daughter makes horrible messes, but always cleans up her room before bed. She definitely inherited her mother's clean freak gene, but I guess that piece of DNA skipped a generation in my family.
Nataly blogged recently about new research that found adolescents express themselves by making a mess in their room and how it's common for most to become more organized and neat as they get older.
Unless the mess is creating other significant issues — say, issues around personal hygene or not being able to get things done — the article authors suggest that parents should just let the kids do as they like and keep the mess.
++What do you think of that study -- is there any logic to it? Do you let your toddlers keep a messy room, or do you make them clean it up (I need tips, please!)?
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Comments (37)
I let it go for a time--like maybe a few days and then we clean it -- My dd is only 2 so she still needs some guidance when it comes to cleaning--but she loves it (she is so not my child ) lol --she gladly cleans her room and puts her things away. --So I have no fights there. --However my sil has a good solution--she tells her kids that their rooms must be clean by say Sat. moning at 10am or something like that --Any and all toys taht are on the floor after the alotted time, go to the trash. No if's and's or butt's --They go in a trash bag and go to the local charity. --It might take one time of doing that for your dd to see your serious, but after that, i bet she cleans her room
At a pre-school age, I clean with the kids to teach them how to do it. A messy room could be dangerous (tripping or stepping on something) and can promote bugs in the room...yuck.
Some people are born organizers, some need a great deal of guidance! Work with her and praise her a lot for the accomplishments she makes. I wouldn't expect a 4 yr old to be able to clean up a messy room on her own.
Nope. If my daughters' room is messy, they refuse to play in it. Then the mess starts to migrate into the living room and it becomes a problem for my husband. So we clean up every night before bed time. I help, we make it fun, and it's part of her bed time routine.
Oh, this is a biggie for me right now. My little one is 3 and he messes up his room many times a day. Hubby is a 'pick-up' nut, he wants everything in it's place....I am more of the clean type, I am not great at picking up little things, but I want my house clean. Anywho.....hubby picks up after Nicholas and now when I tell Nicholas to clean his room, I get "no Mama, you do it"......uhhhhh nope, not going to work with me. Now I know that a 3yo isn't going to do it perfectly, but I do make him help me.
How about if she doesn't pick "it" up, "it" goes to time out? That's a lot more understandable for someone her age, and the punishment ACTUALLY fits the crime.
Also, if you do it EVERY night, it becomes more of a habit and eventually they whine less.
We clean every evening before bed. I also straighten up before we leave in the morning (make the bed, straighten up anything that's out). Her room is the MOST organized in the entire house, thus making it the easiest room to clean (and when things get crazy as they sometimes do, it's the only room I can actually keep clean on a daily basis). My daughter is only three (and developmentally delayed) so I just give her tasks. I will tell her to pick up the toy food, and while she does that I'll pick up another toy. I also make her pick up any toys that are in the living room and take them to her room.
More recently, I have put her in charge of throwing away her diapers (I fold them up and send her off the the bathroom trash can) and putting her clothes in the hamper. I know I fall asleep happy if my room is tidy, so I like to think that she'll enjoy it as well.
I am trying to encourage her to clean up one toy before she moves on to the next, but I'm not too diligent about this, and it often doesn't happen. I care more about that rule while we're in the living room, office, or kitchen. I don't mind if her room gets messy during the day. We just tidy up before bed. If she gets up in the night, if there's an emergency, I don't want us tripping over toys to get to her.
A typical developing four year old who refuses to clean is just being stubborn. I would do what Lanasmom suggested, just bag it up and send it to Goodwill. Good luck!
Absolutely 100% yes. My son just turned 5 and has been cleaning his room since he started walking. If he can make the mess, then he is capable of cleaning it up. He has been dusting and wiping down his room since he was three. If he doesn't want to do it, then I do it for him, and everythign goes into a garbage bag.
I think that it is too much to expect a 4-year-old to tidy or clean her room by herself. However, she is certainly old enough to do it with help and support. Of course the "My hands hurt" or "I'm tired" is an excuse, but it may also be her way of telling you she's not sure how to go about tackling the job herself. Try the idea that someone else suggested - get her to pick up specific items/types of toys. Try making it a race, or a competition (let her win most of the time!). Use the word "Let's" rather than "Do" at least for the present. "Your room is messy, let's get it tidy. Come on, you pick up the doll's clothes and I'll put the bricks in their box. Let's tidy up!" Try rewarding her for her efforts, however small - lots of praise, encouragement, maybe a small treat when she's tried hard. Once it becomes a regular habit, she may even surprise you by tackling it all on her own!
We do a 10 minute Clean Up every day.. Sometimes more than once a day... Sometimes it takes longer than 10 minutes, but the point is that we pick up the messes TOGETHER. I really don't think a 4 year old understands the concept of pick up one thing at a time, and put it all away.. I don't think their brains have formed sequencing yet.. We work on one item, such as Let's pick up all of the Barbies... then after that is done.. .Let's pick up all of the doll clothes.. It works for us, and she is more willingt to pick up along side of me, as a Game...
Sometimes we even have Cleaning Races to see who can pick up the most items and put them away the fastest...
The way that I see it if she can take the toys out, she can put them away. Maybe you could try smaller jobs. Having her pickup her toys two or three times a day. Before nap, after/ before lunch, before she goes to bed ( about one hour) . Try that for a few days, if you don't get much result, all the toys left on the floor at the end of the you put in a bag and you don't let her have for a few days. If she cleans her room successfully give back more toys. Does she have adequate room to put them away? For our daughter we had to buy a bigger trunk for toys and a larger book shelve.
Doing this made a big difference with how our daughter acted too. She even helps me clean around the house, singing " clean up, clean up everybody do their share."