Toddlers, can't live with them, can't live underneath them. That's what just about any apartment-dwelling neighbor living downstairs from a three-year-old will tell you. But is the noise bad enough to evict the parents?
Parents Nicola Baylis and Tim Richold are facing eviction from their rental property management company thanks to the "excessive" noise of their 2 1/2-year-old daughter, Skye. I've no doubt that living below this household is challenging, but I just don't think an eviction is in order here.
I've been on both ends of this problem. Once upon a time our son was an energetic little toddler who ran amok all over the apartment. We have padded rugs everywhere and no one wears shoes indoors -- and yeah, we took him outdoors every day. He's even small for his age. But it still drove my downstairs neighbor bonkers. Meanwhile, our neighbor upstairs had an active, athletic daughter who seemed to run from one end to the other non-stop all day long. So we had a pretty good idea of what we sounded like.
We had some heated exchanges with our downstairs neighbor. And then, because we're both homeowners who are clearly not going anywhere, we decided we needed to compromise. Our neighbor finally realized out kid "doesn't have an off button." And we agreed to get our wild man off to bed promptly at a set time every evening -- so at least there would be a predictable cut-off time for the noise.
And then the inevitable happened: Our son grew older and got quieter. So did our upstairs neighbor's daughter.
That's why this eviction business is so unnecessary. Part of living in a city with other people around you is learning the art of diplomacy and compromise. This is what being civilized means. What's more, the problem eventually takes care of itself when the kids grow older. I think Skye's neighbors are being too uptight.
Do you think it's fair to evict a family because their child is too noisy?
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Comments (25)
It just depends on what the 2 year old was doing. They said it was excessive so I'm interested in what exactly it was before I form an opinion.
I had an upstairs neighbor whose son would get into her bowling set while she was out and bowl in the kitchen. It sounded like the roof was going to come crashing down. He also pogo sticked up there.
Granted he was old enough to know better, but I still wouldn't have gotten them evicted if I could have. I think it would have been warranted, but you know, people gotta live somewhere and not everyone can afford a house so I have compassion for others and understand that the parents were trying to teach him.
i think any neighbor who can't keep the noise down should be evicted.....
i also think it is really hard to keep a toddler quiet!
i don't know which is more unfair..really...having to put up with a noisy neighbor or being evicted because your child is too noisy...... both are pretty bad options......
Jcothrine
I think you just need to be reasonable and consider who's doing what and when.
Apartment living comes with having to put up with a reasonable amount of noise. A loud toddler isn't something to evict for, but a toddler bouncing bowling balls is something that should be stopped lol.
But alot of the time the people complaining about the kids have no room to talk. When my son was a baby he was just crying for a bottle in the middle of the day and someone outside was all "can't they shut that kid up?!" The person outside was my neighbor who is constantly having the cops called on him because he and his mom are constantly screaming obscenitites at eachother night and day and throwing hammers at eachother when other people are walking by xD
I live in the second floor of a third floor building and my neighbors are extreamly loud, I believe they have a wii fit or something along those lines because of the repetitive thumps and they walk or stomp so hard my chandiler shakes and my pictures have fallen off the walls.
Lucky for me they stop about 10 each night unless they decide to become intimate which means I hear the bed bang against the wall for about 5 minutes.
We have so many parents these days that make excuses to unruly behavior.
Running in the house all day long and expecting people below you to deal with it is just plain inconsiderate!!
I had two toddlers and they were not allowed to run in the house all day long. If a kid is that energenic, for goodness sakes, enroll him in classes or sports that will keep him or her busy and ready for some down time when they get home.
Teaching them to learn and sit quietly with a book or toys would work too... that would help develop skills in the social realm and learn how to direct that energy in a positve manner.
No.. I don't think it's okay to allow children to literally have run of the home. It's parents who don't want to take the time out to find healthy solutions for their little ones and instead expect the rest of society to deal with it that end up looking to the public for sympathy or understanding... meanwhile forgetting that people by law are entitled to the PEACEFUL and QUIET enjoyment of their homes and that includes rentals!! Is the home with the child running about peaceful and quiet? Evidently not, if they're being evicted for loud and unruly noise.
Sure all kids eventually calm down, on the surface. It's what's been allowed to develop without direction that ends up causing problems in their school years and beyond.
This is the main reason we did not even consider an apartment when we moved. My toddler is very active. Her energy doesn't bother us, but it would definately irritate anyone living UNDER us. I'm not willing to curtail what I think is perfectly natural behavior for the sake of our living arrangements if there is another choice...so we live in a house in the 'burbs.
I don't know what the right answer in this situation is, though. As a parent, I feel for these. But as a neighbor, I'd probably be just as irritated. You live somewhere, you expect it to be peaceful to a degree (at least I do)/ Either way, it sucks
actually chrischrischris. You aren't entitled to peace and quiet before a certain time of night. Deal.