Obscene Anti-Woman Marine Facebook Page Finally Taken Down -- After 3 Years

F'N Wook pageYou know that thing they keep saying on Game of Thrones: "For the night is dark and full of terrors"? Swap "night" with "Internet" and you've got about the only explanation I can come up with for the existence of the unbelievably offensive "F'N Wook" Facebook page that's devoted to degrading female members of the U.S. Marine Corps.

Thanks to U.S. Rep. Jackie Speier, who fired off a letter to the Secretary of Defense alone with top military brass, the page has been taken down -- but not before it racked up an astounding 10,000 likes for what Speier describes as a "culture of misogyny and sexual harassment."  Worse, it appears the F'N Wook page has been on the Marines' radar for three years.

The page had received hundreds of comments and thousands of likes for its content aimed at degrading female Marines. It included a variety of offensive photos, including an image of a female Marine putting a colleague in a choke hold with the words, "This is my rape face." Another photo shows a woman with a black eye, with the accompanying text: "She burned the bacon. Once." Other images suggest military women perform sexual acts in exchange for promotions.

Speier's letter (PDF) calling out the Facebook page coincides with a disturbing report released by the Department of Defense which says sexual assaults rose by six percent from October 2011 to September 2012.  Approximately 26,000 service members were sexually assaulted last year.

The Marines are now saying they'll take disciplinary action against anyone involved, and that "both active duty and reserve Marines have been involved." While there is "no tolerance for discriminatory comments" in the Marines, Speier says Marine Corps General James Amos has been aware of the F'N Wook page for three years.

The existence of this page certainly raises some questions about why Facebook tolerated it for so long (were they too busy taking down breastfeeding images?) when their own community standards expressly prohibit “harassment,” “hate speech,” and “graphic content.” Additionally, their policy states that “sharing any graphic content for sadistic pleasure is prohibited.”

Facebook hasn't exactly had a great history with responding to controversial pages, though. It took weeks of outrage and a Change.org petition that garnered more than 180,000 signatures to take down a page titled "What's 10 inches and gets girls to have sex with me? My knife," along with more than half a dozen more pro-rape pages back in 2011, a process that prompted Facebook to give this statement to the BBC:

It is very important to point out that what one person finds offensive another can find entertaining, just as telling a rude joke won't get you thrown out of your local pub, it won't get you thrown off Facebook. Groups or pages that express an opinion on a state, institution, or set of beliefs - even if that opinion is outrageous or offensive to some - do not by themselves violate our policies. These online discussions are a reflection of those happening offline, where conversations happen freely in people's homes, in cafes and on the telephone.

And there's the worst part of it all, I suppose -- the Facebook pages prove that these disturbing opinions exist, and that, unbelievably, some people agree with them. Like the “Support Innocence of Nanny Yoselyn Ortega” page that supports the New York nanny accused of butchering 6-year-old Lucia Krim and her little brother, Leo. Or the "Adam Lanza Is a Hero" page with the description, "Adam Lanzer [sic] should be awarded the highest honors for his work in population control. Forever in our hearts.”

People can be disgusting in real life and they can act even worse behind the anonymity of the Internet. I'm sure it's impossible for Facebook to track and take action on every potentially offensive page, but it sure seems to me that the F'N Wook page should have been flagged a LONG time ago for violating community standards.

Do you think the 'F'N Wook' page should be considered free speech and stay on Facebook?

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nonmember avatar chelsea

there is no reason for women to be allowed in the military...the military is for men

bleed... bleedingheart8D

Woman like Chelsea are just as bad as men who think that way. Those pages are disgusting and I know many military woman who serve proudly and with great dignity. 

nonmember avatar April

Oh wow chelsea. Here's to hoping that you're a 12 year old boy stirring shit. Otherwise...you're an idiot

amaroq3 amaroq3

Wow Chelsea.  What a sad person you are . . . from the 1950's?  My dear, you are the weakest link.  Glad the page is finally down.  Those women deserve respect and real men know that. 

nonmember avatar Annie

Offensive, sure. But so are tjousands of other fb pages degrading men, women, children, religions, political parties, races, etc. It's hard to say where they should draw the line.

PonyC... PonyChaser

There are two different issues at play here. One is whether Facebook should allow content that is offensive to some but not a crime, and the other is whether the Marines should have dealt with this FB page sooner.

Facebook is like a big bulletin board. There are low standards; anyone can put up damn near anything they want. And, as it's a US Corporation, it is subject to US rules/laws, which are bound by the US Constitution (remember that?), which expressly protects the citizens' Freedom of Speech. It is not a crime to say, "I am turned on by rape" or "I find the subject of rape funny". It's not  a crime to feel that way. Only the actual act of rape is a crime. So pages like that, as disgusting as we might find them, are allowed. If they start monitoring on the basis of "someone might be offended", you're going to see even MORE breastfeeding photos taken down, and a lot of other stuff that you might find beautiful but others find disgusting - with religious posts probably taking the lead.

The second issue is whether this page violated the UCMJ, which has very stringent rules about the conduct of active and reserve-duty military personnel. I would guess that this seriously violates that Code, and the Marines should have jumped on it much sooner than this, and not only forced it taken down, but handed out stiff penalties to those who run it and participate in it.

nonmember avatar Sarah

Chelsea, the military is for me? Hmmmmm. What about pants and voting? That sounds illogical and ridiculous.

Ms.Li... Ms.LishaJ

Is Chelsea serious!? I served in the Navy for 7 yrs, and was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. I doubt your punk ass could make it a day....so ignorant.

Sarah Dusek

It's not that I agree with what they have to say, but it is their right to say it, in any form of media they want. That being said, it is also facebook's right not to allow or promote their ideas.

nonmember avatar Rose

Chelsea I'm not sure if you are ignorant or just plain stupid but women have been fighting for our country unofficially for as long as men have. who do you think was risking their lives during the civil war tending to the men who were injured? Not only that but there were women who dressed like men so that they could fight for what the believe in. women have served our country and died for our country I know that it's only been in recent years that women have won the right to see active combat. I come from a long line of military Men and Women who have served in every branch during war and peace. The issue is not if women should be in the military or not, the issue is if facebook should allow pro rape posts and pro violence posts on a page that is obviously anti women. I sure would not want my nephews seeing something like that and thinking it's ok. oh yeah just so you know their mom former Army(active combat), Dad(current) Army,Grandpa retired Army, Grandma (current)Army, other Grandpa(former) Navy. even though I agree with free speech I don't think hate mongers of any type should be allowed on facebook

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