Abortion After Rape Considered 'Evidence Tampering' -- That's Bananas!

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thinkingAnd now, a gift from the Land of Enchantment! New Mexico pro-life state Representative Cathrynn Brown introduced an abortion bill that would make abortion following a rape a third-degree felony because it would be "tampering with evidence."

Squee, another insanely harsh abortion law that punishes women for gettin' themselves raped? Is it my birthday? Ladies, your uterus is an evidence incubator for the State of New Mexico! Fortunately this rapey bill will most likely be aborted, I mean won't be passed, because Democrats hold a majority in both houses, so --

Wait, this just in: Ms. Brown would like to clarify some misunderstandings about the bill.

Yesterday Rep. Brown sent out a statement saying that the point of the bill was to punish anyone who commits rape or incest and then coerces his victim to get an abortion in order to hide the evidence. It's supposed to help deter sex crimes because now you can't tamper with the evidence. And if you look at the wording of the bill, that does seem to be the case: 

Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime.

So it would be illegal for a rapist to coerce a woman to get an abortion. (Huh, didn't know rapists were typically that thorough about hiding evidence.) But could a woman who gets an abortion after rape be prosecuted under this law? No, says Brown, who says she'll clarify the language to make it clearer that it applies to rapists, not to their victims. 

So that makes the bill a little less ridiculous. But it's still super creepy that we're referring to a fetus as evidence. In a way, that doesn't seem very pro-life at all. Really, we need to preserve that life because we can use it in court as EVIDENCE? And then what? You've brought another human being into the world. Is the prosecutor going to adopt it, raise it, save for its college education?

If so-called pro-life advocates worked as hard to facilitate adoptions, make birth control more accessible, fund quality prenatal care, and fight for paid parental leave, I would give two shits about their anti-abortion bills. But it's a funny thing -- it seems they're always on the wrong sides of those conversations. It's like the only life worth protecting is that pure, untainted, unborn life. The rest of y'all are screwed.

As long as pro-life advocates keep wasting our times with silly bills like this one (remember "legitimate rape," uteri that kill rape sperm, forced vaginal probes ...), I just cannot take their positions seriously at all. Better luck next time, Rep. Brown.

What do you think of the idea of calling a fetus "evidence" in a rape trial?


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Caera Caera

It's not bananas. It's a good idea. I know of two women who were date-raped, and then coerced by their boyfriends to get an abortion. That was then used as "proof" that they "wanted it", or were just "bitter" about the way the relationship turned out.  More disgustingly, I also know of a teenager who was seeing a man twenty years her senior. He got her pregnant and then "made" her get an abortion.

Holding those pigs accountable is a fantastic idea.

I'm against abortion except in cases of rape and incest, or a physical health risk to the mom. But no woman should be bullied or pressured into getting an abortion by the ass who abused her. Those people should be held liable for what they've done.

bills... billsfan1104

I think you are grasping at straws and tryin to start shit.

Katy Khan

I'm totally in favor of a womans right to abortion, however when a woman wants a baby, she becomes emotionally attached to it from day one and coercing her into an abortion is sick. 

nonmember avatar Amanda

I think you're missing the point, Caera. Forcing another person to get an abortion should be a crime, saying that a fetus is "evidence" is just screwy. What if the woman wants an abortion? Will she be prosecuted for tampering with evidence? If she's forced to carry to term will she be legally responsible for that child? How awesome will it be for that child to then learn (because secrets only stay secret for so long) that they were only born because they were "evidence"?

MrsYo... MrsYoung1287

Exactly what i was thinking billsfan1104

amiec... amiecanflie

BUt then how do we prove that she was coerced? There's a lot of loopholes here. 

LostS... LostSoul88

NO NO NO NO NO!!! I cant say that enough! What about the womens rights?!!! Why should she be forced to carry her raper's baby?! And if she aborts it she gets worse punishment then the raper?! WTF is wrong with this country! 

bills... billsfan1104

Omg Lost, calm down. No one is forcing her to carry. The blogger is trying to start shit. Read the actual bill.

CanCa... CanCan123

Im from New Mexico and this is just ridiculous. Imagine how that child would feel if they were only on earth because of rape. That lady is crazy. Womens rights, WOMENS RIGHTS!!!!! HELLO??????

bills... billsfan1104

AGAIN, for the women who are believing this bloggers BS. The bill is not about forcing anyone to have a baby after rape. It is about the rapist forcing an abortion on a women to hide his crime.

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