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Four Firefighters Shot After Being 'Lured' to Burning Home by Crazed Gunman

by Kiri Blakeley on December 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Two brave firefighers have lost their lives on Christmas Eve, reportedly due to a crazed gunman who opened fire on them with an assault rifle after firefighters responded to a burning building in upstate West Webster, New York. Firefighters were called to the scene of a burning home early this morning. Horrifically, the blaze seems to have been set as a "trap" to lure first responders to the scene, where they were then sitting ducks for a crazed shooter with a gun. Seriously, how low can people go?!

Four volunteer firefighters were shot at the scene, and reportedly two of them have died. "It’s a very dificult situation," said the Webster police chief in a press conference. Police have apparently located at least one gunman (it's unclear if there are more) who had a gun shot wound. They wouldn't say if that was self-inflicted or a result of crossfire with the SWAT team, who arrived to help fireman as they battled a blaze and were shot at.

Firefighters bravely continued to fight the blaze, which ultimately destroyed two homes, despite four of their men being shot.

So what exactly is the solution in this scenario? The NRA would say that armed security guards should accompany firemen on all of their calls, I'm sure. Orrrrrr maybe we could make it more difficult for people to have guns. You know, just a thought.

It takes a pretty repulsive person to shoot upon first reponders who are there to save you. Truly a cowardly and horrific act if I ever heard one. The NRA thinks the solution to criminals with guns is non-criminals ("good guys" in the words of NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre) with guns, then a) How are ALLLLL these criminals getting guns? Cause everyone who shoots an innocent person is a criminal, correct? b) People aren't generally considered criminals until they shoot an innocent person. If you think people walk into a gun show with a sign on their head saying, "I'm going to kill two firemen or 20 children" -- well, you'd be dead wrong.

Does this incident make you think about gun control?

* Update: The shooter has reportedly been identified as William Spengler, 62, who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother in 1980.

* Update: The firemen were reportedly shot with a .233-caliber Bushmaster semiautomatic assault rifle. The same type used in the Newtown killings. As a convicted felon, Spengler shouldn't have owned a rifle; no word on where he got it.

 

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  • WCURi...
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    WCURiverRat

    December 24, 2012 at 1:12 PM
    Nothing is going to stop someone from killing. Y'all keep screaming for the government to take our guns, but yet when the shit hits the fan, you'll be calling for people with guns to come save you. You'll regret it. In the mean time, I'll keep my guns and my way of defending myself.
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    Todd Vrancic

    December 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Nobody is protesting because people need a liscence and insurance to own a car.  I think guns should have the same requirements as cars.  People should obtain a liscence to operate a gun like they obtain a liscence to operate a car.


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    WCURiverRat

    December 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM
    I'm sorry for those families, but everytime something bad happens, people want to ban what caused it. People blame the gun. Do people blame the car when a drunk driver kills someone? No! So why not blame the person, instead of the gun? Banning guns is not going to stop people from using them to kill. It will just disarm the good citizens of this country and make it open season for criminals. With everyone disarmed, they will meet no opposition. That doesn't exactly make me feel safer.
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    WCURiverRat

    December 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM
    To buy a hand gun, you have to get a purchase permit through the sheriffs dept and back ground checks are done for purchasing rifles and shotguns. And you don't need a license and insurance to own a car. If that we're true, I wouldn't need insurance to cover my ass against those who aren't insured. Do your research before you try to take away my rights. I'll be damned if your fear is going to trample my right to protect mine!
  • Bill
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    Bill

    December 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM
    RE: Orrrrrr maybe we could make it more difficult for people to have guns. Stop bringing politics into this! You can't cure crazy people. Crazy people will always find a way to get their hands on guns or any weapon they want.
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    FarmersWife

    December 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM
    I know plenty of people that operate cars/trucks with out a license. That won't change a thing. I know someone illegal in this country, running a stolen/illegal truck, with no license. He gets pulled over- they let him go. Open you eyes people.... Laws aren't going to fix anything.
  • Vegeta
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    Vegeta

    December 24, 2012 at 1:51 PM
    It took me an hour to get the blue card to own a gun and it took me 6 months of extensive grief to get a carry license. After the application package (which is like 60 pages) Background checks, letters of recommendation, cop home visit, detective home visit, finger printing, several photographs, history of hair colors, history of travel locations. All for my job where it hangs on my hip as a decoration. Now the 14 year old gangster who shot this other gangster outside ny friends house probably didn't get any of that done. Criminals will ALWAYS find a way to get a gun. Honest people have to donate their left kidney on the first Monday of the solstice while hopping on one leg reciting the power rangers theme song.
  • bills...
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    billsfan1104

    December 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Now I am pissed.  This happened near me, and we are all grieving.  I have friends that are part of the fire fighting family.  How dare you make this political.  THis has nothing to do with politics.  THis killer killed his mom 20 years ago.  So apparently this guy was sick in the head. 


  • bills...
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    billsfan1104

    December 24, 2012 at 1:55 PM
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    billsfan1104

    December 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    And Kiri, before you go off spouting about making it more difficult to get guns, why dont you really find out how difficult it is???  Bowling for Columbine doesnt coount.


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