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Nanny Reportedly Had 'Vicious' Fight With Marina Krim Before Killings & The Truth Is Coming Out

by Kiri Blakeley on November 6, 2012 at 10:26 AM

There's an old saying about hiding in plain sight. Sometimes we look for something complex and hidden when, in fact, the truth is starkly, and plainly, before us. We just don't want to see it. And the truth about the motive in the Krim family nanny killings is beginning to look more like something plain and simple: The nanny hated the Krims. Or, at the very least, hated mother Marina Krim.

RadarOnline is reporting that Marina and her nanny, Yoselyn Oretega, had a "vicious" and "epic" argument the day before Yoselyn allegedly butchered her two children to death.

Law enforcement reportedly said:

Yoselyn also said that when she left at the end of the day before the murders, Marina ignored her when she said good-bye and this made her very, very angry ... Yoselyn also said she had numerous disagreements with Marina about how the kids were being cared for.

Reportedly in the weeks leading up to the children's deaths, Yoselyn had been warned that her job was in danger.

There were hints all along, of course, that Yoselyn's real target was Marina. There was the way she stabbed the children to death shortly before Marina was to come home -- father Kevin was out of state, so it was Marina she wanted to hurt. She also reportedly began stabbing herself as soon as Marina walked into the room. She wanted Marina to see all of this.

We also heard about how one of the things Marina began screaming when she found her bloodied children was, "I'm never speaking to her again!!!" I thought that was a strange thing to say, but figured that Marina was uttering incoherent gibberish. But it also sounded suspiciously like a woman in the middle of an argument with another woman and one of them finally went too far.

Also, Yoselyn had reportedly uttered, "Marina knows what happened," on the first day of questioning. Again this sounded like a beef between the two of them. My guess is that Yoselyn knew what would hurt Marina the most -- and that would be killing her children, not her.

Of course there are other questions to be answered and ones we may never quite know the answer to -- why didn't she just quit if she was so unhappy? How could she take her rage out on innocent children? We also can't discount the fact that Yoselyn could have been mentally imbalanced or had something physically wrong with her. But let's be honest -- do we offer up that excuse for everyone who kills? Do we say that the teen who shoots a man for his wallet is mentally imbalanced? Do we say the husband who kills his wife because he's having an affair is mentally imbalanced?

If we're going to say that Yoselyn Ortega was mentally imbalanced, what about everyone else who kills, including moms who kill their newborns so they can party with their boyfriends? Okay, maybe anyone who kills is mentally imbalanced. And maybe not. Maybe people just do really bad things sometimes.

Do you think the nanny hated Marina Krim?


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  • miche...


    November 6, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    I think hate is often at the root of any murder.  It's so sad.  Hate destroys your life and can eventually destroy the lives of those around you.  In this case it sounds like it did, literally.

  • Sway
    -- Nonmember comment from


    November 6, 2012 at 10:48 AM
    I don't think the mother screaming "I'm never speaking to her again" had anything to do with the nanny... no, I think it was actually her harrowing realization that she's never speaking to her dead DAUGHTER again. She was in shock, she was processing, she was horrified, she grieved аn unbearable loss. I really believe she screamed these words for her daughter...
  • purpl...


    November 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    The nanny hating the mother is not a reason to slaughter two little children. And if it was Only Kiri could have written this post.

  • Gretta
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    November 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM
    I think the whole thing is disgusting and cruel.
  • Bambo...


    November 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM
    An arguement between two adults lead to the death of two children?!? Really? Either way this woman did a horrible act and should be punished for it. No argument can justify death of children.
  • basmet


    November 6, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    The nanny is despicable!  I can't imagine!

    Makes me wonder though how a mom could feel comfortable leaving her children with someone she fought with so much.  Maybe she didn't have another choice?  I don't know.  It's all just so sad!

  • Maevelyn


    November 6, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    I feel like you are passively trying to pass the blame to the mom. Not cool. If your employee isn't doing well you should be able to warn them that you are unhappy and it might endanger her employment with out fear that she will stab your kids to death. This isn't how well balanced people behave. And planning to stab children and yourself, timing it so that the mom comes home, waiting till the dad is gone, these are all signs that she plotted these murders. It really can't be compared to a crime of passion, like catching your spouse cheating or a robbery gone wrong.

  • mamab
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    November 6, 2012 at 12:23 PM
    I don't think she was talking about the nanny when she said I'll never speak to her again, it was about her beautiful daughter whose life was ripped from her by this monster of a woman. I do have to say though if things were really that bad between the nanny and the family why-oh why would they keep letting her take care of their children. This story just leaves me so sad, it is awful. She obviously is mentally imbalanced, she did this because she was mad at the mother, wow that's not how normal people deal with things. They either quit or leave, they don't stab two innocent children-she's obviously sick.
  • Linda...
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    Linda passarell

    November 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM
    Sorry for the kids. Not to blame the mother at all..but you can feel when there's something not right. There had to be some kind of this didn't feel right take care of your own kids and look for new help simple as that. Now look sad.
  • Trina...


    November 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Does anyone think it may be possible that the mother killed her own children and went after the nanny and not thinking the nanny would survive? I'm just trying to look at things in different angles. The whole thing doesnt quite make sense yet.

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