Mom Accused of Horrific Child Abuses Says Bible Made Her Do It

All have heard Prov. 13:24: "He that spareth the rod spoileth the son, but he that loves his chasteneth him betimes." But they've not heard Prov. 3:11-12: "My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction: For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth, does as a father the son in whom he delighteth," Gal. 5:22-23: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, [self-control]; against such there is no law," Eph. 6:4: "And ye [parents], provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord," 2 Tim. 2:24-25: "The servant of the Lord must...be gentle unto all men, (able) to teach, patient; in meekness INSTRUCTING those that oppose them," Deut. 21:18-21: "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son which will not obey [him] or his mother and that when they have chastened him will not hearken unto them: Then shall [they]...bring him out unto the elders of his city and unto the gate of his place and...say, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard; and all the men of his city shall stone him with stones that he die; so shalt thou put away all evil among you and all Israel…hear and fear," and get the point that the ONLY time it is proper to beat a child is NEVER and that the word CHASTENETH means DISCIPLINE: TRAIN, TEACH, INSTRUCT, ADMONISH and CORRECT WITH MILDNESS; not punish, abuse and break?

For Christians, the Old Testiment is to be used only as a reference.  We are to live by the New Testiment, Jesus' sacrifice created a new convanent with man which trumps any previous convanent.  We are called to love each other as Jesus loved us, with sacrifical love, if necessary.  Last I looked, child abuse was not sacrifical love.

These people and those like them do not truley understand the Bible nor do they wish to dig deeper so their knowledge is as complete as possible.  There are many things in the Bible that at face value are off putting, but when you research and understand, you come to realize that they are wonderful verses.  Ephesians says a woman is to subgigate herself to her husband, but that doesn't mean a wife is a slave.  If you truly research this verse and chapter, anyone will see that is simply means we are to love our husbands sacrifically.  And our husbands are to do the same.  They are to love their families as Christ loved the Church... meaning he would lay down his life to save his wife and children.  Sorry for the lesson there, but what I am trying to get at is you have to understand how the Bible applies today!  It is still relevant if you understand and I am sure there is nothing about abusing your children!! 

 

Just as irresponsible as using the Bible to excuse abusing your children, is someone writing an article that uses Bible verses out of context in order to make a point.  Shame on you Jeanne!

First of all I can't stand this writer, can CafeMom/the Stir PLEASE remove her!! She never has any real constructive critiscism about anything. Secondly all the quoted bible verses are from the OLD testament. They are OLD for a reason.  Any Christian in a bible based Church knows the difference between using the bible as a guide in the living relationship with Christ and using it as an excuse to do unChristian things. I think Jeanne Sager should go back and read the bible thoroughly and if she doesn't exactly understand something seek a bible study group or pastor for clarification before making assumptions about the context of certain bible verses. In every religious group (even non Christians, athiests included) there are extremists and they are not representative of that particular religion as a whole, so please stop bashing on Christians, Christianity and parents in general we all parent differently, let the law decide what to do with these two we are not here to judge (that include you too Christians!), that is God's job. 

I'm not a holy roller and all that jazz but I grew up in a christian household and had to read much of the bible. Most of the time people like this take it too far and use the bible/God as an excuse for their actions. Clearly the verse Proverbs 13:24 means that if you don't punish your child you don't love them, that teaching them right from wrong shows you love them, that does NOT mean cruel punishment. Now in days punishment is either time-outs, groundings or taking privileges away, like going out etc. If these people are holy rollers and live by the bible like they say they do, they REALLY over looked Proverbs 19:18, Mark 9:42, Ephesians 6:4, Psalms 127:3(Also a good case against abortion) I'm not against discipline, for I was disciplined growing up and I turned out just fine and respectful towards may parents, it's abuse that is the wrong way to "discipline". Sorry for the long comment, it makes me angry when so called "people of God" do stuff like this because I know other Christians who live by God and isn't a nutcase like these people clearly are. Children-teens should not have to suffer from peoples mental issues...

"They took the Bible out of context.  And most parents understand how to read the Bible and follow it.  When you are reading the Bible, you have to understand the original translation and the history of the day, so that you can interpret it correctly.  There are a lot of things the Bible says that don't appear to make any sense, unless you understand the history.  Not knowing it and using what you *think* you read as an excuse for abusing someone is extremely poor behavior.

Also, it is perfectly possible to live by the Bible's actual teachings.  I really don't like how these types of extremists bring out the religion bashers.  What they did IS NOT CHRISTIAN.  And you know, just because people disagree on their interpretations of the Bible and just because they lead imperfect lives isn't a reason to throw out the Bible altogether.  Nobody's perfect, regardless of worldview, so we can't discount a worldview because the people living it out are flawed....  Do you see the problem with that argument?"

 

Yeah that.

 

folks the Bible does not say abuse your children it says correct your children to make it say abuse you have to take it totally our of context

It's always those who were raised in a Catholic household who always has the most trouble with what the bible says. Most of the time, their speech focuses on a set of rules you have to keep in order for you to reach God. Never does it emphasize the relationship you must have with Christ, which is probably why so many people nowadays equate rules with being righteous. That couple who abused their daughter did that exact thing. they had forgotten that if God had ruled us by a set of rules, then we would all deserve hell. But instead he sent us his son as a shown of compassion. In other words, we didn't get the punishment we deserved. I also noticed that the author of this article tended to use only Old Testament( before Christ) verses as justification for her argument. Kind of defeats the purpose of the freedom we have in Christ, doesn't it? Afterall, isn't that why we are called Christians?

God would never condone these people's actions.  There will always be someone somewhere taking something out of context.  These people are psycho and that's that.  I'm a Christian in my right mind.  What they did is not and never will be okay.  And I think this article is rediculous!  Anything in the old testament is from thousands and thousands of years ago.  Things were very very different.  We are to live by the principals in the NEW testament, ya know the ones about loving one another.  Oh and to not spare your child the rod.  Does not mean abuse them, it means to teach them.  To discipline them, not beat the poo out of them.  The bible does also say to follow the laws of the government.  That would mean no abuse too.  So quit judging the Bible just because someone feels like using it as their excuse!