Vagina in the House! I said, Vagina in the House! Yesterday Michigan state rep Lisa Brown got all up in her fellow legislators' faces over their proposed abortion bill that imposes new regulations on abortion providers and bans all abortions after 20 weeks. She made a well-reasoned, passionate case about how she, as an observant Jewish woman would never force other people to live by her beliefs -- so why are conservative legislators trying to make all Michigan women live by theirs? And then she let loose the V-Bomb:
And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no.'
Burhurrhurr -- va-WHAT?!? That little aside got Brown banned from speaking on the floor. But she's not finished -- and neither are these other women.
Okay, so maybe Brown should have said "uterus" instead of "vagina" since that's where the zygote grows. But the point is: If you can't say it don't legislate it. This is how exasperated and incredulous women are becoming over these pushy abortion bills.
Rep. Barb Byum is so fed up she tried to introduce an amendment to the bill banning men from getting a vasectomy unless sterilization would save the man's life. Ha! Good one, Barb. Point well taken. Oh and by the way -- you're banned, too. Barb wasn't allowed to introduce the amendment which, in my opinion, is no less ridiculous than the bill itself. But then I guess that point is a little too hard for the House speaker to swallow.
So now two things are forbidden on the Michigan state floor: The word "vagina" and irony.
Well you can ban vagina, irony, and mouthy women all you want. We're not shutting up. If anything, banning Byum and Brown just gave their cause more publicity and support. Has anyone else NOT heard Brown say VAGINA in the Michigan State House? Maybe you should forward this to a few of your friends because obviously we need to hear it more. In fact, I think every conservative politician who wants to support another retro, dark-ages abortion bill should be required to say the word VAGINA aloud in front of his peers, first. As in, "Yes, ladies, I want to get up in your vagina and legislate the hell out of it like I'm the biggest, chaffingest tampon you've ever seen."
Oh I could go ON with that metaphor. But I'll spare us all. The point is, keep making up laws over our lady parts and we'll keep making you squirm by naming those lady parts. You think "vagina" is awkward? Wait until someone yells VULVA.
Do you think Reps. Byum and Brown should have been banned from speaking?
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Why would women wait until 20 weeks?
Because something is wrong with the baby.
Because something changed in her life (lost job/insurance, husband went crazy, divorced) that made continuing the pregnancy a bad idea.
At 12 weeks pregnant with my second child, I was told I likely had cancer and should abort for treatment if the tests came back positive. I did not have cancer but I did have to have surgery mid pregnancy. If it had been cancer, you bet I would have had a second trimester abortion because my eldest child needed me.
You are not the woman, not her doctor. You have no right to intervene.
A lost job, insurance, husband, etc. are all extremely POOR choices to abort a 20 week old pregnancy.
Stupid, idiot women. I love how it's "Stay out of my uterus/vagina!" in one breath and "Pay for my birth control!" in the next.
How about this? Pay for your own freaking birth control - or better yet STOP HAVING SEX IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES and stop using abortion as another means of birth control. Maybe then the need to protect the lives of the people you are so willing to simply murder for convenience will eventually dissipate.
I don't think this woman should have been silenced. We all should have a right to express our opinions in how we are governed.
I think that at 20 weeks a baby should be given a chance to live unless it is clear medically that it would be fatal/ harmful to mother and/or baby. If there is hope that a baby could live outside the womb, it should be allowed to try. I couldn't imagine if I was aborted. My life isn't perfect, my father was a horrible Dad and things were HARD for my Mom, but we made it through! I am glad to be alive.
I am not sure at what point a baby is considered a baby. Is it conception, or the age of viability (24 weeks)? I'm not sure. But I FEEL very deeply that 20 weeks is a baby. It can feel pain. And that is a big issue to me. When you extinguish it's life at that age, well, it was way more than just a bunch of cells at that point.
I'm not judging people who find themselves in that situation and have to make that decision. However I think that maybe there is a lack of education about the developmental process inside the womb. I think most people would cringe to "kill" a baby at 20 weeks if they studied it.
Typical liberal Democrat....unable to see the difference between her orifice and an unborn child. Liberals can't see the difference between sin and the sinner, the freeloader and the needy, the poor by choice and the helpless. Look at the brouhaha over not paying for college women's condoms routinely called a war on women....unreal idiocy. Ban her from speaking...heck, boot her out for being classless AND stupid.
2. Baby inside is not a living breathing person yet, but somehow they have more rights?
3. Most women do not choose late term abortions just because of superficial reasons. Do you feel good making a women carry to term a baby that WILL NOT survive outside of the womb? I sure as hell don't. She needs to be able to choose when to say goodbye. (and please, enlighten me if most people get test results back before 20 weeks. I didn't even have an ultrasound until then, and wasn't offered any sort of testing until that appointment as well.)
4. Telling a woman to "just not have sex" is asking her to deny a very human experience. It's natural, it's normal, yet you all seem intent on demonizing her for doing it. Many married women have had abortions. Do you really think a marriage would last with no sex? Really?
5. Perhaps, we really need to understand no one makes the decision to abort lightly. (ok, maybe SOMEONE out there does, but of people I've known, it's been a heart wrenching decision for all involved.) And unless we're positive that somehow a woman doesn't know that the fetus is her baby, we can lay off all these ridiculous rules. We know we're carrying babies. And it's up to us to provide the best possible outcome for that child and all other children.
Jessica Johannsson: "Baby inside is not a living breathing person yet,"
Back to biology class for you!
Jessica Johnnsson: "we really need to understand no one makes the decision to abort lightly"
Incorrect. Planned Parenthood alone performs about 330,000 abortions per year = 1 abortion every 95 seconds. Those kinds of numbers belie that there are many "heart-wrenching" decisions. Instead, it proves that abortion is used as birth control by hundreds of thousands of mothers.
(For those that will inevitably challenge the figures I just cited, the info comes from Planned Parenthood's own website and their Annual Reports, available online for your perusal.)
Pesky facts.
Caera, who is asking for birth control to paid for by someone else?
Caera, other people's sex lives are none of your, you should pardon the pun, fucking business.