Dan Savage Should Not Apologize For His 'Mean' Bible Comments (VIDEO)

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Dan Savage, the writer and activist who launched the 'It Gets Better' project and has been outspoken about gay rights, caused a huge stir at the National High School Journalist Conference in Seattle when he openly bashed the parts of the bible that say being gay is "wrong." A number of kids walked out of the speech, some even cried, but Savage kept on going.

To those who walked out, I say this: Boo hoo. The truth hurts. We ignore so many parts of the bible in our daily lives it would make a person's head spin to count them all and yet we focus on this? We focus on the few lines that justify persecuting an entire group of people?

Those who do so are wrong and ignorant and deserve to be called out and no one should ever apologize for doing so. See Savage's comments below:

He said:

We can learn to ignore the bulls*** in the Bible about gay people. The same way we have learned to ignore the bulls*** in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation. We ignore bulls*** in the Bible about all sorts of things.

As the students reacted with varying degrees of horror, Savage responded with:

It’s funny, as someone who’s on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the bible, how pansy-assed some people react when you push back.

Go Dan Savage! It is impressive that he had the courage to say and do what he did and for those who are offended, I ask you this: Why? What is the problem? Is it that he is pointing out the truth about the incredible hypocrisy of using religion to justify hating gay people?

Any time a book (or anything else) is used as an excuse to persecute people, we ought to be questioning it. But, in our culture, it is verboten to openly question the teachings of religion. We claim this is "religious freedom," which is all fine and good, but the second someone's freedom to practice their religion hurts someone else's freedom just to exist and love and grow as a human, then it is wrong.

It is so wrong that we need to call it out. But it takes tremendous courage to do so. Savage is smart and he is witty and most of all, he is RIGHT. He is righteous. And he is spreading the truth. If he changed one mind, if he made one person realize just how wrong it is to use religion to justify persecution, then he has done something important.

Sometimes some people have to be offended, especially if they are wrong. Savage should never apologize for speaking the truth.

Do you think Savage's comments were wrong?

 

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Kris Gamble

The bible doesn't justify hating anybody, that's the whole point. Unfortunately there are Christians who don't get that. We are supposed to love everybody, because everybody has screwed up just as bad as we have. In the end we can't say "I'm better than you because I'm not gay" no matter what the Old Testament says about it, because the truth is the people saying that are probably the ones who are truely without Jesus. God didn't lay down the law in the Old Testament because he is hateful, he did it to show that no matter what you do, you can never be self righteous, because you can never get anything right. You need Jesus. That is why we don't follow old Testament law, because we have Jesus now. He came and took away the burden of the law and died for everyone who has ever sinned. 


I support the It Gets Better movement, and anyone who truely loves Christ should. I feel sorry for the "Christians" that don't understand Christ's love. He loves this guy and anyone downtrodden with a burning passion. It is humans who twist that message.

nursemc nursemc

He is absolutely right. I get why people are going to offended by his comments, religion is such a personal thing. But, there's not one person especially here who can say that they believe everything in the bible and follow all its rules. If you do, I'd like to know where you get the turtles that you light on fire after your period, a pet store, raise them yourself? The problem is that so many people who think they believe what the bible says have never read it aside from certain passages recommended by their church which conveniently gloss over those things that are so obviously bullshit. If you're interested in the part about the turtles (or doves, your choice) it's in Leviticus right before the bit about homosexuals.

nursemc nursemc

Kris Gamble- that's exactly what he's talking about. Christians when questioned about the hypocrasy of the bible always say "oh well that's the old testament" like it doesn't count. But ask them about homosexuals or any other social problem and what do they always quote? The old testament. You don't get to pick and choose, that's what hypocrasy is. The old and new are not seperate religions.

neslo... neslonturf

For a person who stands against bullying...which I fully support...he was awfully quick to bully CHILDREN who disagreed with him. Let's remember, in this video, he was talking to High School Kids...the very demographic he wanted to impress upon that bullying is wrong. 


Whatever your beliefs. To call a group of high school kids "pansy assed" for walking out of a talk they disagreed with. Out of line. Everyone is allowed their beliefs, and the freedom from being bullied because of them. 

bills... billsfan1104

So its ok for him to talk like this to High School Kids??  If it was my kids who went to a conference like this and they were belittled for their beliefs, I would be pissed.


He and you have to remember, just because someone thinks differently, doesnt mean that they advocate hate or violence.  They just believe different. Once people on both sides start talking and not yelling "bigot" or "you are a hater" or "homophobe", maybe people will start listening. 

Kris Gamble

The Old Testament "doesn't count" because Jesus SPECIFICALLY said that he came to free us from the law. We aren't Jews, we are Christians, that means Christ's diciples. That means we follow what he says. And he said he came to fulfill the law - meaning we don't have to, that we could eat whatever we wanted, that we should love our neighbor. We don't just dismiss the Old Testament, we are only following what Jesus said.

Kris Gamble

That is why I believe it is wrong to hate gay people or anyone else - because I have no "law" to back it up. I don't protest what they do or believe that there should be any kind of Christian morality in our laws, because Jesus doesn't say we should. I understand there are other kinds of Christians out there, I am just talking about what I believe.

hotrd... hotrdumommy

I agree with what he said. We do ignore most of what the bible says for our convenience but we choose to focus on a few verses and degrade and cast out homosexuals?

LKRachel LKRachel

Thank you Kris for explaining it better than I could. Christians do not discard the old testament- we study it and see where we've been and ultimately see the many ways we fail. Jesus was THE ONLY ONE who could fulfill those laws and he died for us having committed no wrong.

Nursemc- you're right- someone who follows Jesus should not claim to love everyone and use the bible against a specific group of people. There ARE Christians out there who are not that way. But we are all imperfect and fail and ignore His call to minister to those we love. It's a process. A good friend of mine says that Christians in America are the worst advertisement for Christianity and sadly she's right. There are some of us who endeavor to truly follow Christ and change that.

bills... billsfan1104

I wonder if Dan Savage would pick apart the Muslim faith too.  They are against gays too.  But I guess its just convenient to bash the shit out of teenage Christians. 

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