The Birther Movement: Anything's Possible

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julie marshLast week, much to my surprise, I received a Birther propaganda email. Because, really? Someone besides Orly Taitz is still banging the Birther drum?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since the Truthers are still out there speculating. Different side of the political aisle, same brand of batshit crazy.

Birthers, allow me to introduce you to two very helpful sites: FactCheck.org and Snopes.com. Actually, the population at large -- especially folks who are prone to forwarding ridiculous emails to their entire address book -- ought to familiarize themselves with these sites. Because if you are technologically savvy enough to electronically spread misinformation, you ought to be smart enough to do your homework beforehand. Otherwise the rest of us will just start marking your emails as spam.

I find the Birther movement entertaining for a variety of reasons, more so than the Truthers. Alleging that our government was behind (or had any knowledge of) such a tragedy is infuriating. But suggesting that a presidential candidate would tell an easily debunked whopper in his pursuit of the White House is really just laughable.

Evidence abounds of Barack Obama's birth on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu. None of it has been exposed as a forgery; in fact, FactCheck.org analyzed the document in person and in detail, refuting all the objections raised by the Birthers. On the other hand, the Birther movement has unearthed Kenyan birth certificates that have been easily identified as fakes. The comparison of one of these fakes to the Australian birth certificate after which it was modeled is especially telling.

Earlier this year, a photograph of a Kenyan border sign, proclaiming the country to be "Birthplace of Barack Obama," was circulated via email. Snopes.com handily exposed it as a fake -- the sign and surrounding landscape are at the border of an Omani territory, the Arabic words on the sign are spelled backwards, and the translation is completely off.

Finally, Orly Taitz herself is hilarious -- at least if you're not the judge who's hearing her latest frivolous lawsuit. As the de facto face of the Birther movement, she's the icing on the "you've got to be kidding me" cake.

Birthers accuse Obama of thinking that the rest of us are stupid, but in light of evidence against them and the mistakes in the evidence they've presented, I have to wonder how stupid the Birthers think we are.

I understand how it feels to dislike the president. I harbored a visceral distaste for Bill Clinton for eight years, even as I served in the military while he was commander in chief. I felt for the Democrats who believed the presidency was unfairly handed to George W. Bush; at the time I was a Bush supporter, and I would have felt the same way if Al Gore had been declared the winner.

We've all observed lies by our presidents -- lies of omission, lies of commission. Is it possible that President Obama has orchestrated a lie that's broader and deeper than any Truther conspiracy theory? Sure, it's possible. But I've yet to see any rational, factual reason to believe it's actually so.

 

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nonmember avatar orly taitz

dear Julie Marsh


only bat shit crazy obama Zombies like you can believe the lies coming  from Obama or far left publications like Annenberg fact check or Michelson family silly snops.com


please visit my web site OrlyTaitzESQ.com and read the affidavit from a senior deportation officer from the department of homeland security, stating that Obama not only does not have a long form birth certificate wiht the name of any hospital or doctor; he does not even have a valid social security number of his own, since 042-68-4425, that he is using today, was issued in CT to another individual, born in 1890.


Instead of attacking me and acting like some rabies stricken attack dog, why don't you start acting like a human being, go to a press conference in the White House and demand from Obama release of his original birth cvertificate, sealed in Hi (that is supposed to show the name of the doctor and hospital) and an explanation, why doesn't he have a SS number of his own.  

gbmom1 gbmom1

Is she serious?


If I am to take her comment and stance seriously, referring to someone who disagrees with her as "bat shit crazy" doesn't speak to her ability to reason and present a logical argument.


The logical fallacy of this statement has a name: Ad Hominem. (Look it up, Orly. I'll give you a website: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/ad-hominem/, aka, Personal Attack)

nonmember avatar realist

I have doubts as to the reply being from Orly. It, frankly, doesn't sound batshit crazy enough to be Orly.

Had it really been Orly, I think she would have accused the author of treason and aiding and abetting fraud and threatened to sue her, just as she does every journalist who disagrees with her stance.

Nope...don't think it was Orly.

nonmember avatar Plutodog

Actually, it does sound like Orly. And she has been doing some blog trolling and responding to people who dis her and her holy mission. She's running out of courts to dis.

FWIW, Orly's got "bat shit crazy" memorized because she's been called it so many times by so many frustrated, rational folks.

nonmember avatar BigGuy

I think it's Orly too. She's such a laughing-stock now that even the few who used to take her seriously are jumping ship. If you go to her web site -- and only try it with a well protected computer! -- you will find that most of the "supportive" comments she receives are in fact spoofs. She is too dumb or too desperate to know it.

It's sad in a way, but she has told a lot of lies and done a lot of malicious harm.

nonmember avatar dysfunctional

Actually, I think Orly is hot.  What a babe!  What an absolute babe!

nonmember avatar Learn to Read

When someone is ignorant enough to publically post what they claim to be someone else's SSN, their rants about "sealed documents" and "hidden information" become all the more laughable ... yep - probably was Orly. 


 


 

29again 29again

First, I hope that wasn't Orly.  Being offensive and name-calling like that is no way to convince people that you might have a point, and to at least open their mind to the possibility that you are right.


Second, I have my doubts, but I'm not going to make a big deal of it right now, because the alternatives left if he is ineligible are far worse than what we have now.  I think Nov will help correct a lot of things more than proving that O is not eligible for office.


Third, your title says it all, anything is possible!


And last but not least, FactCheck is so far left, that I really don't trust their checking too far.  Especially with things political.  Snopes?  More of the same, but not as bad as FactCheck.

nonmember avatar LMK

I see that Orly is posting complete SS#s again. She is being sued for doing just that (she posted another birthers SS# online and is being sued over that). You might want to edit the SS#. It might be illegal for you to have it posted here, even though you didn't write it yourself. I am not sure about that. Even if it isn't illegal, it isn't cool to have someone else's complete SS# posted on your blog!

That certainly could be Orly posting. She has free time now that she lost the CA SoS primary. She seems to be trolling the intertubes in her free time. But I have never seen her use the phrase "bat shit" before. LOL!

nonmember avatar BigGuy

Uh-oh, I think Orly is really losing it now.

She claims to have sent Chief Justice Roberts a long diatribe chronicling her many complaints against the workings of the Supreme Court, and has requested (among other things) that she be permitted to bring a forensic expert to SCOTUS to verify that the signatures of the nine justices who ruled against her in an earlier case are authentic.

Read it for yourselves (with a protected computer!) at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=12440

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