Restaurant That Won't Accept Tips May Be Onto Something

tip restaurantThe topic of tipping when dining out is, without question, one of the most strangely debated. Everyone seems to have their personalized way of doing it. For instance, my husband is someone who almost always defaults to 20 percent (at least), because he just happens to be outrageously generous and upstanding. On the other hand, I'm more commonly influenced by the level of service. But throw service charges and built in 18 percent gratituties into the mix, and someone's most straightforward, consistent tipping habits can go haywire. I'm wondering how people are going to react to the new policy at a restaurant in Manhattan

Sushi Yasuda has begun explaining to customers that "following the custom in Japan ... service staff are fully compensated by their salary. Therefore gratuities are not accepted." Instead of leaving a tip, customers are expected to simply pay a higher all-around bill, which includes a service fee. And if you try to tip, they'll give it back to you!

Innnnteresting. As long as servers really are being "fully compensated," this definitely makes sense. Although they're in hospitality, they're getting paid like they would in any other industry that has nothing to do with tipping. So it's all good. But when tipping is a part of the payment equation, I feel like restaurants need to do the opposite of what's being done at this Japanese restaurant. In other words, tacking that 18 percent on -- or sort of like they're doing at Sushi Yasuda, build it into the menu prices and give servers a cut of every bill, however they want to handle it.

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When one of my good friends in high school got her first waitressing job, I couldn't understand how it could be LEGAL for her to make something like $2.00 an hour "plus tips." What if she didn't get tips because people were cheap, tourists who didn't understand how much American servers rely on tips, forgetful, or just plain rude? Then what?

Hence why restaurant employers have to look out for their employees, whether it's by paying them a fair wage (and benefits wouldn't be too shabby either -- Sushi Yasuda says that's part of their package) to begin with or building in a tip in an area where clientele may not be consistently adept with tipping. As long as those are the choices, I can totally see the case for taking away the privilege or requirement -- however you want to see it -- of the customer to choose their own tip.

Would you prefer to dine at a place like this restaurant? How do you feel about getting a bill where the gratuity is already added?


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keelh... keelhaulrose

I like the idea, but it's not going to catch on anytime soon. I wouldn't mind paying 18% more because I'm going to leave it in tip anyways, but people balk at higher prices. And they like the option of withholding for a bad tip.

Pamela Farley

I've been to Japan, and if you try to tip they will chase you out the door with your change! Prices were not insane either. I think its a good idea, but then how will service be effected if every one gets paid the same? I know of some restaurants who split tips so its a group effort instead of an individual accomplishment. I like the idea. It takes the math at the end of a boozy night out of the equation!

nonmember avatar Loki

It's an appealing thought. It's an easy way to dine in countries where tips aren't expected or accepted. Problem is, without a financial incentive, the service will be as good as the weakest link. Why should the laziest person get paid the same as a hardworking person? Why should the laziest take an equal split of the pool of tips at the end of the night? The service would likely become more like the fast-food industry,where often, employees act like they're doing you a favor by serving you.

work4... work4mickey

I like idea. You know 10% used to be considered a fair tip. Now, somehow, 20% has become the minmum. The IRS assumes waitresses in tipped possitions get tipped a certain percentage. They gey taxed on it whether they get it or not. Most prople want to tip above the mimimum. As people tip higher, the IRS has adjusted their assumptions. This has resulted in tip creep.

nonmember avatar guest

In Australia they pay higher wagers and so tips are not expected, and if they are given they are 10% maximum. Being from North America and having served there myself, I am used to good service. When I first came to Australia I was appalled by the horrendous service! 6 Years later I am used to getting my own water, begging for the bill and sitting at dirty cafe tables and thinking I'd gladly tip for some decent service!

Bmabes Bmabes

Look, tipping is a neccessary part of going out to a nice dinner and 20% for good service is totally reasonable. Look at the employees (of course there are exceptions) of your local Mcdonalds or other fast food establishment versus the staff of an upscale restaurant... Which set of employees looks and speaks more like they could be part of a beautiful ambiance and provide you with a satisfying expereince from a service stand point? There is absolutely nothing wrong with any fast food employee but those are the types of people that are willing to work for just a little above minimum wage and they are not the people I would think could help me with my wine selection. Without the earnings that good tips yield the better servers would make a B line for another industry. Unless you've been in the business you have no idea what we go through from dealing with chefs, to people needing constant attention and having no etiquette, to a physically demanding job it's pretty crazy and I wouldn't do it if I didn't make an average of 20+% with the occasional awesome patron who gets super generous.

nonmember avatar Leah

I agree with the above! I'm American but have been living in Germany for a while, and the service here is HORRENDOUS. Some locals lament, too, and call it 'the service desert.' I went out to eat with a group of 8 once, and they completely forgot about my dinner. Didn't even make it. I still had to pay full price for it--to go. I think the IRS assumes too much of tips and good servers deserve benefits, but when the service will dwindle to the worst servers' performance, it's not a good idea.

nonmember avatar Anowscara

I like how Home Depot creates the expectation of good service- it pays a salary, but employees are supposed to get so many good customer service marks a month to have a good performance review. They also make it easy to leave a review, good or bad. I make sure and leave a good review every time I get good service.

Also by eliminating a tip, then different servers can "help" with the same table. I just got ignored in a restaurant for almost half an hour because our server was "on break"!

Bmabes Bmabes

Anowscara, what kind of places do you eat that allow breaks? That is a very weak management team. We do absolutely help each other out that wouldn't improve if we all made the same amount as each other as a matter of fact there would be less of a point in making sure guests were happy, as there wouldn't be a tip... We don't take good care of you because we like you, we do it for the $$$

nonmember avatar jessi

A friend of my sister worked at a restaurant by my house last year. She was getting paid only $2.00, but the restaurant was a buffet. She hardly got any tips. I think that is completely unfair and something like this would be a pretty good idea.

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