Breastfeeding Mom Who Lost Custody of Babies for Smoking Pot Speaks Out (VIDEO)

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daisy bram familyIf you listen to the police audio tape of mom Daisy Bram crying in agony when child protective services took her children away from her, it's truly heart-wrenching. "My babies! My babies!" she screamed when they removed her 28-day-old son Zeus from her arms along with her 15-month-old son Thor back in September. Her crime? Possession of marijuana. But in Butte County, California, it is legal to grow pot. And Bram, along with husband Jayme Walsh, both have legal documentation allowing them to use marijuana for pain management. The county also allows them to grow it.

Three weeks prior to their arrest and seizure of their children who were placed in a foster home, police investigated the family's cannabis garden and gave it the okay. An officer even reportedly wished them luck with the baby. But then the unthinkable happened. You can hear the tape next, but be warned. It's very emotional and there is some language at the end.

You can hear the pain in her voice and no mother -- no parent -- should ever have to go through that. Yes, it was CPS, an agency that is put together to help save children's lives. But at the same time, this is seemingly a family who lived within the law, and whose babies weren't in danger. Of course, that depends on your stance on medical marijuana. Still, the people at CPS are strangers to this mother and father. Their babies were taken from them to live with strangers. For four months. I can't even imagine not being able to be with my children for four months. Bram calls it a witch hunt and the family has set up a website Free My Babies with details.

Fresh in the news the other day, however, was the story of a 19-year-old mom who left her infant on the hood of her car as she drove away, drunk and high. I feel this is much different than a mother who legally smokes a little pot at home for the pain in her arm. Even if she is breastfeeding.

Bram recently spoke to ABC News 10 about how she feels her kids were taken away because she was breastfeeding and smoking pot. She talked about how she doesn't believe enough THC can pass through breastmilk to cause any harm to the children. Tests revealed that there was trace THC in the hair from Thor, her older son, but the baby didn't have enough hair to test. Daisy also mentions how mothers drink, smoke cigarettes, eat genetically modified foods, and this is all seen as okay for a nursing mom. But a mom who smokes medical marijuana can have her children taken from her for months. 

Bram and Walsh were charged with felony marijuana possession with intent to sell. Police found a 38-plant garden and 56 plants inside the home. Remember this is all legal in Butte County ... as long as their intent was to smoke it themselves and not sell it. The child abuse charges were dropped.

At the end of the audio, you can hear Daisy saying how she followed the law and asked those taking her babies away if they felt good about what they were doing. I can't imagine that they did. In this case, I don't think anyone "wins" -- and those children, having to be away from their parents for four long months ... all the milestones missed, the precious time a mother and father should have with their children ... gone. And for what? All because this seemingly peaceful family had some pot, which was within the law? Was it the fact that Daisy was breastfeeding?

They will never get that time back, but I hope they never have to go through something so horrifying again.

What do you think of Daisy Bram's story? Should they have taken the children from the home? Do you believe smoking pot while breastfeeding is enough of a "crime" to have children go to CPS?


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Jacob Maloney

we just had a baby, My wife had a Cesarean and wasn't sober. I was a little concerned and worried would we get arrested if my wife used pain medicine while they cut her open, would we be in trouble if my wife continued to take those pain pills when we got home? I asked our doctor and he said that not enough passes through the membrane to matter, certain organic substance show up in trace amount, but its not harmful. He went on to say we have known that since the 30's when more physicians began prescribing pain medicine. I then asked about drugs and alcohol, he said alcohol isn't natural and will get your child buzzed, same with cocaine, meth, but not things like tobacco or marijuana. He went on and on about how this is all known by physicians and absolutely not an issue.

Tiffany Smith

I'm torn on this. I know that true medical marijuana does not contain THC, which is the component that gets you high. However, I do have a problem with someone just growing the plants themselves with children being in the house. If you feel the need to do it, have it in a place where the children do not know about it or can get to it. Especially when breast feeding. I am anti any drug, but feel that in some extreme cases medical marijuana that does not contain THC is nesseccasry. But not for a little pain management in your arm. I think there are other ways of getting rid of the pain, whether or not having the weed is legal or not.

Tiffany Smith

And to ghostbaby, the one who wrote the comment saying that they needed to be investigated because of what they named their children, what does that have to do with anything? We named our youngest Fenix, after the mythilogical bird of Egypt and neither one of us does drugs, legal or otherwise. So does us naming our child that mean we need to be investigated? Names have nothing to do with the type of person or parent  you are. that is a very close minded way of thinking

Darlene Lumbrazo Fennell

For pain in her ARM?    She has risked her kids, babies, for pain in her arm.  If she has THAT much pain that she has to smoke pot, then maybe she should go to either pain management, or the hospital.  And if she IS hurting that much, then don't breastfeed your baby.  All I can picture is a mother and father stoned, and "trying" to take care of little children.  Sometimes you just Have to deal with pain, and not head to the nearest drug store. 

Kirst... KirstenSeagren

I know personally the pain she went through having her children removed, I would never wish that sort of anguish on any loving parent. But I believe that the choice to breastfeed while smoking marijuana was irresponsible. I DO NOT think that it merits the removal and emotional upheaval of her children. Obviously no one truly considered the best interests of the kids in this matter. Recommend bottle-feeding if the medical marijuana is necessary, but don't take kids from a loving home to satisfy some messed up Dudley-Do-Right syndrome. My kids were initially removed because unknowingly I had a sex offender in my home. I had no Idea of his status. My son was almost killed in foster care because the so-called foster-parents decided to take it upon themselves to diagnose my son with ADHD(which he does not have) and give him another child's Ritalin. he was not even 2.  My daughter was locked in a closet for hours when she tried to stop the father from beating on her baby brother. In essence sometimes those who are SUPPOSED to help actually hurt more. Rather than risk causing unnecessary damage(physical or emotional) why not help her learn to weigh out options and the very real consequences of transferring THC to her child through breat milk? CPS claims that they are there to help not to hurt. Unfortunately in this case and many others like it, it doesn't seem to be true. What good could come from removing a newborn from it's parents during a crucial bonding period?

Angie Klimo Takach

but its okay to take prescription pain pills which are more yes I said MORE dangerous than the pot!!!

Angie Klimo Takach

I think CPS should be done away with. Yes I know some kids need CPS but the majority doesn't, They over step their bounds more than they help...it's more harmfull to children to take a child away from their parents and put them in a house with strangers than it is for the kids to stay with the parents who smoke pot! Why is it that its okay to take pain pills that can actually be very addictive be okay to take...(these drugs are known for causing people to pass out) but pot that can serve the same purpose as the pain pills with out the god awful side effects as pills is bad. I dont see CPS taking kids away from people that drink!!!


 

Donna Marcus Bond

I have no problem with medical marijuana, but no one should breastfeed while taking medication unless given the okay by a doctor.


Still, taking the children away for four months seems an overreaction.

nonmember avatar Jnc76

While I agree that this is completely dangerous, I have worked with kids whose mom comes to pick them up HIGH ON HEROIN. We called CPS and you know what they said? Release the kids. It is heartbreaking to let a six year old go in that situation. This woman seems to care about her children, and I hope she gets her act together. In my opinion, eating genetically modified foods is WAY more damaging to a child than marijuana.

Windy Juckett

I don't think it was enough to have her kids taken away. I mean crackheads to have crack babies get to keep their kids if it is agreeded they get help. I think this could have been handled a lot different. I breastfed both of my children and know the bond you build and four months without their mother is not right.

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